Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape.
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Post subject: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:29 pm |
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im just annoyed stkildas name gets dragged through all this, i mean he hasnt even played a game for us, barely even trained with us. hopefully brett peake can provide the speed we need
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:06 am |
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nbg wrote: im just annoyed stkildas name gets dragged through all this, i mean he hasnt even played a game for us, barely even trained with us. hopefully brett peake can provide the speed we need thats what you get for signing someone like Lovett its the same deal with Fevola As well as the gun player you get all the history that comes with them, which is the reason why he was kicked out of the blues dissapointing to say the least...
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:41 pm |
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He has been officially sacked by the Saints. It's on the AFL site.
And I don't think Fevola and Lovett are in the same boat.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:55 pm |
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what a shocker of a draft for us, lost pick 16, ball and lovett
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:52 am |
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nbg wrote: what a shocker of a draft for us, lost pick 16, ball and lovett Do not disagree, but you didn't really lose Lovett, rather threw him out. I wonder if the whole Lovett saga might galvanise the Saints for the season ahead?
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:44 am |
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meh glad its over, there would have been a clear clause in the contract that said if you play up we have the right to terminate your contract. And i hope so jerry, plus its not as if all the guys were best mates with lovett, had barely been training with saints before it happened.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:58 pm |
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glad to see him booted before the start of the season, didn't want it to linger into the premiership season and become a distraction for the team. don't see how this puts a dent in our premiership hopes for 2010 at all, to be honest.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:54 am |
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You know, I hope St Kilda get burnt here and are forced to pay out at least some of his contract. I think he is a douchebag, but that is beside the point. Lovett has been charged with rape, not convicted. Yet St.Kilda think that they can sack him and that he has no right for a grievance hence. Seriously come on. St.Kilda stuffed up.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:09 pm |
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Totally disagree. Im on the clubs side in regards to this. Good on them for making a stand.
Why would a business want to assosiate themselves with a rapist? Are you saying they should have let him hang around?
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:23 pm |
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thall wrote: Why would a business want to assosiate themselves with a rapist? Whether he is a rapist or not is known by only two people...him and the girl accusing him. In this country we still work on a system of innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I think the Saints were out of line for sacking him based on an allegation. He wouldn't be the first sportsman falsely accused of sexual assault. But nor would he be the first to commit the act. None of us (including the StKilda Football Club) know the circumstances of the case, so who are we to play judge, jury and executioner? The law says he is entitled to his day in court and a fair trial, a courtesy which should also extend to his job.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:25 pm |
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nbg wrote: what a shocker of a draft for us, lost pick 16, ball and lovett You also missed out on pick 27 was it? For ball, because of some oversized egos = Poor recruiting and a bit of bad luck on the lovett case......(innocent until proven guilty???  ) I dont know.............
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:26 pm |
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woop you got in there and stole some of my thunder grinners 
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:53 pm |
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That's fine Grinners, I respect that view also. There have been lots of allegations in the past, but they are usually found to be BS by the Police who investigate. It is a serious allegation, so what im saying is Police wouldnt have charged him if there wasn't enough evidence to proceed / produce in Court.
The club did the right thing in distancing themselves .... Im more pissed that Lovett was selfish and didn't distance himself from the club. Im by no means a fan of Saints or Essendon, but I think how Lovett conducted himself was wrong, and at the end of the day will only hurt Football.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:19 pm |
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Again, if Lovett believes he has done nothing wrong, why should he distance himself from the club?
As for your comments about police only laying charges if there is enough evidence, rape is in many ways a different story. In the end, if there is evidence that the pair had a sexual encounter, but one says that it was rape, then it is not for the police to decide who is telling the truth. In the absence of further evidence either way, then the matter is put before a court for the decision to be made.
I don't know the details of the case against Lovett, but the evidence on hand could be as simple as an admission by him that he had sex with the woman, or a witness that can say that he/she saw them both at the same place and saw them go together to where the alleged rape occurred.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:24 pm |
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Grinners wrote: Again, if Lovett believes he has done nothing wrong, why should he distance himself from the club?
As for your comments about police only laying charges if there is enough evidence, rape is in many ways a different story. In the end, if there is evidence that the pair had a sexual encounter, but one says that it was rape, then it is not for the police to decide who is telling the truth. In the absence of further evidence either way, then the matter is put before a court for the decision to be made.
I don't know the details of the case against Lovett, but the evidence on hand could be as simple as an admission by him that he had sex with the woman, or a witness that can say that he/she saw them both at the same place and saw them go together to where the alleged rape occurred. I have this little tax problem at the moment grinners.........you know... if you have the time.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:07 am |
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thall wrote: Totally disagree. Im on the clubs side in regards to this. Good on them for making a stand.
Why would a business want to assosiate themselves with a rapist? Are you saying they should have let him hang around? Nice to see you're one of those lynch mob mentalities. He has been charged with rape, not convicted. There is a difference. It is at this point where the football club should be supporting him. Not throwing him aside. They can always sack him once a verdict has been passed. Football clubs have such double standards.
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:56 pm |
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When you say double standards, why do the names "Leigh Montagna" & "Stephen Milne" spring to mind?
Apparently what was acceptable in 2004 isn't now. Although the police ended up not charging them with anything due to 'insufficient evidence', I don't recall them between barred from the club while the allegations were being investigated....
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 5:53 pm |
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Recieved an additional charge .... Not looking good for the lad. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/former ... 5863655602
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Post subject: Re: Andrew Lovett CHARGED with rape. Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:54 pm |
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truely disgusting story
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